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How long till you have to move out after surrendering house in a bankruptcy?

Monday, July 23rd, 2012

Question: If you surrender your house to the bank and file bankruptcy in Canada do you have to move out right away? My specific situation is that I have about $20,000 in equity in the house after realtor fees/legal fees if I were to sell. Unfortunately that would not be close enough to pay off debts I am carrying. Is it possible to stay in the house for a bit after surrendering the house or would it be best file Bankruptcy and let bank foreclose.

Answer: It typically takes a mortgage lender many months to foreclose once you stop paying the mortgage, so yes, you could stay in the house for a period of time after you stop paying the mortgage.

However, if you have a house with $20,000 in equity, it is generally not advisable to let the bank foreclose on your house.  You state that your debts are considerably more than the $20,000 you would receive if you sold your house.  Let’s assume your total unsecured debts (not including the mortgage) are $50,000.  You are correct that selling your house and getting $20,000 is not enough to pay off your debts, but it also doesn’t make sense to walk away from $20,000 and go bankrupt.  Here’s an alternate strategy:

List the house for sale, and instruct your real estate agent to price it attractively, so that it will sell in the next month or two.  Stop paying the mortgage, and look for a place to rent.  (You will probably need your mortgage savings to save for first and last month’s rent when you move to your new rental place).

Once you have a firm offer on the house, file a consumer proposal, offering your creditors the equity in your house.  For example, your proposal could be the payment of $20,000 on the closing date of your house.

If the creditor’s accept your proposal, you avoid bankruptcy, and the process is completed quickly.

If the creditor’s don’t accept your proposal, you could then file bankruptcy if required.  If you filed bankruptcy either shortly before or after selling the house you would still lose the equity.

The point is this: you have already realized that the equity in your house will be going to your creditors, so the quick solution is to offer that equity in a consumer proposal, and possibly avoid bankruptcy.

This is a quick overview of your options; we strongly recommend you meet with a licensed Ontario bankruptcy trustee and consumer proposal administrator to review your options in more detail.

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Sale of Home – equity question.

Monday, March 9th, 2009

Question: My wife has over 60,000 in unsecured debt and has lost her job for medical reasons. All of her secured debt is joint with me (145,000 mortgage and 35,000 loan with 3 vehicles as collateral). We are considering bankruptcy for her but I have a question about the equity in our condo. We have an offer to purchase that will leave us with about 18,000 after selling costs. So far we have not missed any payments on anything and both have good credit scores.

Should we wait until the house sells before she files for bankruptcy? It would mean missing payments on her unsecured debt for the next couple of months. I would plan on using all of the proceeds from the sale to further pay down the 35,000 joint secured loan. Would the bankruptcy still want half of the proceeds from the sale even if it is used to pay down other joint debt?

Answer: You are asking some complicated technical questions; you should discuss this with an Ontario bankruptcy trustee before you make a decision.

In general terms, when you go bankrupt you must disclose all asset sales in the past year (or up to five years in some cases). So if you and your wife were to sell the condo, and you were each to receive $9,000, she would be required to disclose the $9,000, and what she did with it. If she uses the money to repay other debts, the creditors who did not get paid may be upset, and they may consider opposing her discharge from bankruptcy, which means she ends up paying more in her bankruptcy.

In addition, if she repaid some of her secured debt, that would increase the equity in those assets (such as a car), and she may then risk losing the car in the bankruptcy.

Another option may be to take the proceeds from the sale of the house and use that as the starting point in a consumer proposal, where the creditors are offered a lump sum of money at the start of the proposal, which increases the chances of acceptance.

This is an overly simplified answer to your question, so the professional advice of a trustee is required before you decide on a course of action.

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