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House Equity in Bankruptcy in Ontario

Monday, September 20th, 2010

Question: I am in the process of filing bankruptcy in Ontario but have not signed the papers yet. There is $8000 equity in my house however there is still 4 years to go on the mortgage that if I sold now I would owe more than I make in closing costs and the rate differential however the trustees say they want us to pay the $8000 which is really not possible, not even in payments. We make just under what is determined for our family size and there is no extra monies. If either of us did get another position to help cover that cost it would only increase the length of our bankruptsy. I would like to go through with the bankruptcy but can’t afford to agree to this extra expense? Consumer proposal would not help. Don’t know what to do.

Answer: You have three choices:

First, you could get a second opinion from a different Ontario bankruptcy trustee.  It appears that if the trustee was to seize your house and sell it, after paying disposition costs and the penalty to break the mortgage there may not be any equity.  Alternatively, the trustee could apply to court for an extension to your bankruptcy to allow you to pay the equity over a longer period of time.

Second, you could sell the house.  If there truly was no equity, you would have proof, and your bankruptcy would end in the normal period of time.  Obviously that’s a very drastic solution.

Third, you could consider a consumer proposal.  If there would be no surplus income in your bankruptcy, the consumer proposal could offer to pay the equity in your house over an extended period of time to make the payment affordable.  Again, you should consult a different Ontario bankruptcy trustee for a second opinion.

Mortgage, Car Payments and Consumer Proposal

Thursday, September 16th, 2010

Question: I was just wondering, if we have a mortgage on a house and we are making car payments through a bank can we still qualify for a consumer proposal without losing either of those things?

Answer: Yes, you can file a consumer proposal or a bankruptcy in Ontario, and continue to make the payments on your mortgage and your car, provided those payments are up to date when you file.

Whether or not you should continue to make the payments is up to you.  If your house is worth significantly less than what is owing on the mortgage, it may be prudent to surrender the house and include it in your proposal.  That is a decision you will make in consultation with your consumer proposal administrator.

Creditors meeting

Thursday, July 22nd, 2010

Question: I have $15,000 equity in my home and have asked my trustee to request a meeting of creditors to attempt to settle. I am a single mom with 3 children and i do not have the money to pay 15,000. I may be able to come up with $4,000.00 and can only afford approx. $100-$200/month. Do the creditors have to show up and agree to my proposal? Does this happen very often?

Answer: It is very unusual for creditors to attend a creditor’s meeting.  Most creditors are big banks and credit card companies, and they don’t have the resources to be sending staff to creditor’s meetings.  Even if they did show up, they would presumably request that you pay the $15,000, or surrender the house.

Your question is not clear: did you file bankruptcy, or did you file a consumer proposal?  If you filed a consumer proposal, it is possible for the creditors to negotiate a settlement with you.  If you have $15,000 in equity in your house it is unlikely that they would agree to $4,000.  However, they may agree to an initial payment of $4,000, and then further payments of $200 per month for 60 months; that would be total payments of $16,000, which is more than they would get in a bankruptcy, so that may be acceptable to them.

We strongly recommend that you discuss this with your trustee, since it is your trustee’s job to fully inform you of all possible outcomes, so that you understand the different options.

Bankruptcy in Ontario: What Happens to My House and Car?

Thursday, March 11th, 2010

Question: Hi, my boyfriend is heavily in debt and we would like to seek some advise. He has $70,000 in credit card and line of credit debt and is having a hard time coping up with the payments since he only works part time. The only assets he has is his car that he has paid off a long time ago and the house his parents bought which is named after him, his sister and brother. If he decides to file for bankruptcy in Ontario what will happen to the house that is house and also to his car? I hope you can help us. Thank you very much!

Answer: If you file bankruptcy in Ontario, you are required to either surrender your house to the trustee, or pay to the trustee the equity in your house.  Equity is the value of the house (the difference between the value of the house, and the amount owing on the mortgage and other charges).  If there is no equity, you could keep your house (provided you keep the mortgage in good standing).  In your brother’s case, if the house is owned jointly by him, his sister, and his brother, he would only be required to pay his share of the equity (presumably one third).

He should get an appraisal on the house, and confirm the balance owing on the mortgage, and then meet with a trustee to discuss his options.

For the car, if there are no loans against it, you can keep a car worth up to $5,650 if you go bankrupt.  Since his car is old, it is probably not worth more than that amount, although again he can have it appraised to be sure.

More information can be found in this article on what happens to your house if you file bankruptcy in Ontario, and what happens to my car if I file bankruptcy in Ontario.

For a review of his exact situation, he should consult an Ontario bankruptcy trustee for a no charge initial consultation.

House Sale Pricing and Bankruptcy in Ontario

Monday, March 30th, 2009

Question: With the drop in the housing market, what happens if my house is evaluated today, and is worth less in a month?

As well, does the trustee settle on the gross sale price of the house ie:(300,000 – 100,000mtg = 200,000 to be paid), or is the net price after what would be legal and real estate fees be the final amount owed by myself ie:(300,000 – 100,000mtg – 5%real estate – 2% legal = 179,000 to be paid)?

Answer: The trustee is required to negotiate a settlement with you for the value of the house. In most cases you will obtain an appraisal and confirmation of the mortgage balance, and then negotiate with the trustee for a fair settlement, which may involved the trustee giving some consideration to selling costs. The trustee is not permitted to simply do a mathematical calculation as you have shown; they must negotiate a fair settlement for all parties. However, the numbers you have quoted would in most cases be fairly close to the actual amount that would be required to be paid. Your trustee can provide you with more information.

Sale of Home – equity question.

Monday, March 9th, 2009

Question: My wife has over 60,000 in unsecured debt and has lost her job for medical reasons. All of her secured debt is joint with me (145,000 mortgage and 35,000 loan with 3 vehicles as collateral). We are considering bankruptcy for her but I have a question about the equity in our condo. We have an offer to purchase that will leave us with about 18,000 after selling costs. So far we have not missed any payments on anything and both have good credit scores.

Should we wait until the house sells before she files for bankruptcy? It would mean missing payments on her unsecured debt for the next couple of months. I would plan on using all of the proceeds from the sale to further pay down the 35,000 joint secured loan. Would the bankruptcy still want half of the proceeds from the sale even if it is used to pay down other joint debt?

Answer: You are asking some complicated technical questions; you should discuss this with an Ontario bankruptcy trustee before you make a decision.

In general terms, when you go bankrupt you must disclose all asset sales in the past year (or up to five years in some cases). So if you and your wife were to sell the condo, and you were each to receive $9,000, she would be required to disclose the $9,000, and what she did with it. If she uses the money to repay other debts, the creditors who did not get paid may be upset, and they may consider opposing her discharge from bankruptcy, which means she ends up paying more in her bankruptcy.

In addition, if she repaid some of her secured debt, that would increase the equity in those assets (such as a car), and she may then risk losing the car in the bankruptcy.

Another option may be to take the proceeds from the sale of the house and use that as the starting point in a consumer proposal, where the creditors are offered a lump sum of money at the start of the proposal, which increases the chances of acceptance.

This is an overly simplified answer to your question, so the professional advice of a trustee is required before you decide on a course of action.