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Consumer proposal or bankruptcy?

Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

Question: My friend is 60,000 in debt is now separated and his ex doesn’t work. He will have to pay child support, and earns 40,000 gross a yr. His debt is a mix of business and personal. He does not have any assets except a truck he uses for work and some tools – is a consumer proposal a good idea? Does it cost anything to file a consumer proposal?

Answer: A consumer proposal might be a good option; it depends on what he can afford to offer the creditors each month.  In a consumer proposal you make payments each month, and the balance of your debt is eliminated.

Your friend should start by determining what they can afford to pay each month, and then consult a consumer proposal administrator for a no charge initial consultation to determine if a proposal is the correct option.

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Stuck with ex-husband’s business debt

Thursday, October 14th, 2010

Question: I have been divorced for 5 years now and my ex-husband declared bankruptcy in June. He has a business and let the credit line go to $30,000.00. Since he declared bankruptcy they are now coming after me since I had signed a personal guarantee, he also did. I was taken off the business and bank account but not the personal guarantee. Is there anything that I can do other than declare bankruptcy? My divorce lawyer has done nothing other than suggest bankruptcy and another lawyer suggested we sue him.

Answer: Since your ex-husband is bankrupt, there is no point in suing him; any amounts he owes to the banks would be included in his bankruptcy.  You have three options:

First, you could attempt to work out a settlement with the bank.  If you tell them you are considering bankruptcy and they will get nothing, they may be willing to settle for less than the full amount owing.

Second, if you have income and assets and don’t want to go bankrupt, you could file a consumer proposal.   A consumer proposal deals with all of your debts (not just the one you guaranteed for your ex husband), and if successful you end up with one monthly payment.

Third, if that’s not possible, then yes, bankruptcy is an option.  You should arrange a no charge initial consultation with an Ontario bankruptcy trustee to determine which option is right for you.

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Should I file a consumer proposal now, or after the judgment?

Thursday, October 7th, 2010

Question: I have a judgment pending and in the meantime I am planning a consumer proposal. My question is should I proceed with the consumer proposal before the judgement or after the judgement? And what would be the difference before or after?

Answer: In most cases, if you know that a judgment will be registered against you in the near future, it is probably prudent to file the consumer proposal now.

When a consumer proposal is filed, there is an automatic “stay of proceedings”, which prevents most creditors from taking any further legal action.  If you wait to file the consumer proposal until after the judgment, it is possible that your wages will be garnisheed, or other actions taken, so in most cases it is best to file your consumer proposal before you lose any money due to a garnishment.

However, if you decide to wait, the filing of a consumer proposal will stop most judgments already in progress, so even if your wages are already being garnisheed, you can still file the consumer proposal to stop it.

A licensed consumer proposal administrator can give you more information.

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My niece has been separated for 2yrs as her ex had an affair

Wednesday, October 6th, 2010

Question: My niece has been separated for 2yrs as her ex had an affair, and now he wants to claim bankruptcy in Ontario, will it affect her? When they were together he had a small business, and they had a line of credit will she be responsible for that? Will her and the 2 small boys lose there house?
Thank-you
Concerned Aunt
PS I told her to call Legal Aid

Answer: If your niece has co-signed a debt for another person, and that person declares bankruptcy, then your niece is responsible for the debt.

As to whether or not she will lose her house, that is a more difficult question.   The answer will depend on whether or not she files bankruptcy or files a consumer proposal, and whether or not there is any equity in the house.  More information can be found in this article on what happens to my house if I file for bankruptcy?

For advice on debt and bankruptcy matters, she should talk to a licensed bankruptcy trustee.

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Mortgage, Car Payments and Consumer Proposal

Thursday, September 16th, 2010

Question: I was just wondering, if we have a mortgage on a house and we are making car payments through a bank can we still qualify for a consumer proposal without losing either of those things?

Answer: Yes, you can file a consumer proposal or a bankruptcy in Ontario, and continue to make the payments on your mortgage and your car, provided those payments are up to date when you file.

Whether or not you should continue to make the payments is up to you.  If your house is worth significantly less than what is owing on the mortgage, it may be prudent to surrender the house and include it in your proposal.  That is a decision you will make in consultation with your consumer proposal administrator.

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Bankruptcy in Ontario and gambling

Friday, July 16th, 2010

Question: I met with an Ontario bankruptcy trustee and need to fill out the forms to file for bankruptcy in Ontario. His questionnaire says “in your own words, what circumstances have caused your financial problem?”. Do I need to disclose the fact that I have a gambling addiction or is it okay to be vague and just say that I over-extended myself over a long period of time? I have heard that there can be additional penalties if your bankruptcy is due to gambling.
thank you.

Answer: You are not eligible to be automatically discharged from bankruptcy if gambling was the cause of your financial problems; you would be required to attend a discharge hearing before the Bankruptcy Registrar, and they would determine whether or not your bankruptcy would be extended.  Generally the Registrar would want you to confirm that you are no longer gambling (perhaps through a voluntary self-exclusion at the casino), and also providing proof that you have attended gambling counselling.

In most cases your creditors will be aware of your gambling.  They will see cash advances being taken from your credit cards, bank loans and lines of credit, and they may also have records of cash advances taken on your debt or credit cards at the casino, or through on-line gambling.  So, if you don’t disclose it, and they discover it later, you are in much more trouble than if you had simply disclosed it initially.

We therefore recommend that you be honest; that is generally the least risky alternative.

If you are concerned about a bankruptcy discharge hearing, another option is to file a consumer proposal.  Once the creditors accept your proposal, you simply make the payments; there is no discharge hearing.  Consult a consumer proposal administrator for more information, and to arrange a no charge initial consultation.

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In a bankruptcy mess in Ontario . . .

Thursday, June 3rd, 2010

Question: In September 2008, I declared bankruptcy in Ontario. It was an emotional time in my life and didn’t know exactly what I was getting into.

My income is $95,000 per year and I owed $116,000 in unsecured debt.

I was supporting one of my common law’s two children, then half way through the nine month period, the other moved in with us.

Since then I’ve asked on several occasions for them to recalculate my surplus income. My original trustee left the business. They assigned me to another trustee from whom I’ve only heard once. That trustee has since left the business as well leaving one person to ‘wind up’ their business due to the death of the person who owned the company. The bottom line is that I’ve gotten no answers.

They sent me a letter last July stating that I missed a court date for a discharge hearing but I’d never been made aware of that required appearance. After contacting them, they advised that I had to finish my counselling and they would apply for another court date.

I asked them again to send me a revised amount owing based on the changes to my situation.

I’ve heard nothing from them since. I’ve called and left messages, but the message says they are no longer in the office as they’ve wound down the business and check messages occasionally.

I want to change trustees because clearly I’m not getting any level of service and want to deal with the amount owing so I can get on with my life.

As an aside, I am more than a bit annoyed because (although I didn’t know it at the time of filing) I could have done a consumer proposal at about 50 cents on the dollar and probably have avoided this whole mess.

My first thought is to see a bankruptcy lawyer, but I can’t afford that.

Any advice.

Answer: You are correct, you got very bad advice.  A consumer proposal was probably the logical solution to your problems initially.

You have three choices.

First, you could contact the Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy and advise them that your trustee is not responding to your requests for information; perhaps they can help.

Your second option would be to contact a bankruptcy lawyer.  I realize that you said that you can’t afford it, but if you are earning $95,000 per year, it may be wise to save $1,000 and get some good, independent advice from an expert.  You are currently an undischarged bankrupt, which in the long run will cost you a significant amount of future hassle and money.

Your final option may be to file a consumer proposal.  It’s unusual to file a proposal while bankrupt, but it is not impossible.  If the proposal is accepted by your creditors, it serves to end your bankruptcy. An Ontario bankruptcy trustee can provide you with more information.

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Can I pay an Ontario bankruptcy off early?

Monday, April 26th, 2010

Question: My friend declared bankruptcy in Ontario 5 months ago, with the timeline being 21 months. His payment has been $1,000/month on average for surplus income. After 6 months of payments, it is my understanding that the trustee will take those payments and average them out to a regular monthly payment for the remaining 15 month term. Could I pay the balance “owing” off for him now? I would like to lend him the money to end this quicker, but will it be to his advantage? Will it allow him to move up the discharge? Thank you!

Answer: There is no simple answer to this question.  Under current rules, if a bankrupt has surplus income of more than $200 over the limit each month, the bankruptcy is automatically extended for a further 12 months.  Since your friend is paying $1,000 per month, they are obviously over the limit, which is why their trustee has advised that the bankruptcy will be extended from 9 months to 21 months.  There are two possible methods for ending the bankruptcy early.

The first option would be for you to do as you suggest, and make the required payments to the trustee.  The trustee, or your friend, could then apply to bankruptcy court for their discharge.  It would be up to the court to decide whether or not they grant an early discharge.  Section 169 [2] of the Bankruptcy & Insolvency Act provides that not earlier than three months and not later than one year after the start of the bankruptcy an application can be made for discharge.  So, legally, it is possible to get an early discharge.  However, it’s up to the court to decide whether or not to grant the discharge.  The court may reason that the bankrupt is required to not only pay the money, but also to be bankrupt for a further 12 months, so they may not grant the discharge.

The other option would be for the bankrupt to file a consumer proposal.  His proposal could be that he will immediately pay to the creditors the balance of the amount that would have otherwise been paid in the bankruptcy, with perhaps even a small amount more.  The creditors may agree to that proposal so that they get their money quicker (without having to wait for the bankruptcy to end at the end of 21 months).

Your best option would be to discuss these different options with your trustee, since they will be best able to advise on the likely success of each potential approach.

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Not given Options to Bankruptcy like a Consumer Proposal

Monday, April 19th, 2010

Question: I filed a Bankruptcy in Ontario last year, however would have liked a chance to do a consumer proposal. My trustee wasn’t very forwith and advised that I could afford to do a proposal. I thought otherwise. I felt cheated out that chance, and was treated very cavalier whenever I asked questions. I felt the trustee I dealt with was not knowledgeable. Anyways, my question is, now that I am Bankrupt..I feel even though it is public knowledge, my privacy is breached. The higher paying jobs I apply for want a credit check, and feel and know I have been turned down due to that fact. I am not a risk and would not steal and can be trusted. However, when they run a credit check this information is used against me. This is not RIGHT!!!! and feel my rights are infringed upon to make a better living without being judged as a RISK..check my criminal record…ITS CLEAN…

Answer: You are correct that some employers require a credit check, and will not hire someone who has a past bankruptcy or consumer proposal.  That is very rare these days (there were more than 150,000 people who filed bankruptcy or a proposal in Canada last year, so employers generally understand that financial problems are common), but it does still happen.

In general, it is best to be open and up front with employers.  If they tell you they will be conducting a credit check, tell then that you filed bankruptcy, and tell them why.  If they are going to find out, it’s better if they also have an explanation up front.

We also strongly suggest that everyone research their options before deciding to file bankruptcy.  A consumer proposal is a great option for many people, and if your trustee doesn’t want to explain a proposal to you, find another trustee.

As for your specific situation, even though you are bankrupt, it is possible to file a consumer proposal while you are bankrupt.  Whether or not that makes sense will depend on your situation (your income, and how many months remain in your bankruptcy).  You can discuss this with your trustee, or consult another trustee for a second opinion.

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consumer proposal paid

Wednesday, March 31st, 2010

Question: I filed a Consumer Proposal in 2005 and paid it off in 2006.  As of 2010 it’s still on my credit report. How can I get it off?

Answer: The first thing would be to send a copy of your completion certificate to the credit bureau along with one of their correction forms that you should easily be able to down load from their website.   Provide them with the relevant dates and they’ll notify you when the update has been made.

The note indicating that you filed a Consumer Proposal usually stays on your credit report for 3 years after it has been completed.  It’s usually considered to be a good advantage to a filing a Consumer Proposal vs filing for Personal Bankruptcy.  The incentive being, the sooner you pay it off, the quicker it comes off your report.

Send them the information and hopefully you’ll soon see the updated report.

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