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Bankruptcy to a Proposal

Saturday, November 19th, 2011

Question: If you file for bankruptcy but your creditors vote it down can you come back and then file for a consumer proposal? And if so, does the original bankruptcy claim cost the $1800 or does that only click in after bankruptcy has been approved?

Thanks!

Answer: I think your question is backwards. Creditors do not “vote down” a bankruptcy.  Once you file bankruptcy in Ontario you are bankrupt; there is no vote.  Your creditors can object to your discharge from bankruptcy, but that happens at the end of the process, not the beginning. There is a vote in a consumer proposal,  and if your creditors reject your proposal then yes, you can file bankruptcy.

It is possible to file a consumer proposal while bankrupt, which may happen if your situation changes.

Consumer Proposal has failed. Can I declare bankruptcy

Tuesday, November 15th, 2011

Question: My consumer proposal has failed. Certain elements changed after the consumer proposal. Can I declare bankruptcy?

Answer: Yes.  If your circumstances change after you file a consumer proposal, you have the option of declaring bankruptcy, which terminates the proposal.

 

Loan While in a Consumer Proposal

Wednesday, September 21st, 2011

Question: If you are in a consumer proposal are you still able to get a loan?
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Answer: Legally, yes.  Practically, it’s difficult.

Once you file a consumer proposal there is a note that goes on your credit report saying that you have filed a proposal.  So, when you apply for a loan and the lender does a credit check, they will know you are in a proposal, which makes it more difficult to borrow.

If you are borrowing to finance a car, and you have a sufficient down payment, and a good income, you will probably still be able to qualify, although you may pay a somewhat higher interest rate.

One option, once your proposal is accepted, is to get a secured credit card as a way to start to rebuild your credit.  Of course the best way to improve your credit is to repay your proposal as fast as possible, and then start saving money.

Debt options

Monday, August 22nd, 2011

Question: I have about $70,000 in unsecured debt & about $80,000 joint with my wife. If I decide to have a consumer proposal done, will my wife also have to do a consumer proposal, or can the proposal be done only for the portion I owe on my own? If our property was transfered into my wife’s name only within the last 9 months, how will this factor into the equation?

Answer: Yes, you can do a consumer proposal on your own, however you must include all of your debts.  In your case you have $70,000 in debts solely in your name, and $80,000 in debts joint with your wife, so your proposal would be for your total debt of $150,000.  If you file on your own, your wife is still responsible for the joint debt, so she then may have no choice to file a proposal herself, unless she can continue to service the debts.  It probably doesn’t make sense for you to file a proposal on the joint debts, and for her to continue servicing them on her own.

When you file a proposal or a bankruptcy in Canada, you are required to disclose all asset sales or transfers within the last year.  The issue will be the amount of equity in the house at the time of the transfer.

For example, if the house was worth $250,000 and the mortgage was $240,000, there was minimal equity, so the creditors probably won’t care about the transfer.  However, if you owned a house worth $1 million with no mortgage, and you gave it to your wife 9 months ago, the creditors will be upset (since you could have sold the house and paid them off with the money).

You have a number of options, including filing a joint proposal, or filing two separate proposals.  In your case you should arrange a consultation with a licensed trustee to review the implications of all of the various options for dealing with your debts.

if they repo my car can they garnishee my wages

Tuesday, July 5th, 2011

Question: I am 2 payments behind and trying to make arrangements but they are threatening to repossess the vehicle and then garnishee my wages… What can i do and can they do this? I told them i will get caught up within 6 weeks but they don’t care.

Answer: If you are behind on your payments on a car loan or lease, the lender does have the legal ability to repossess the vehicle, and sell it to recover the amount owing.  If there remains a balance owing after they have sold the vehicle, they can take you to court and sue you, and potentially garnishee your wages.

While legally they can repossess the car and garnishee your wages, practically that is generally a last resort.  The car lender doesn’t want to go through all of the hassle of seizing your car, selling it, and then suing you.  They just want their money.  You have the following choices:

First, talk to the lender, and make payment arrangements.  Obviously they want all of their money now, and they will use the threat of seizing your vehicle to make you pay, but they don’t really want to take your car.  They are making threats because you haven’t paid, so offer to make a payment when you get your next paycheque, and propose a plan where you will get caught up over the next month or two.  If you have the ability to make extra payments and get caught up, they will probably allow you to do so.

Second, if the lender refuses to take your money, or if you don’t have the ability to get caught up, you will probably lose your vehicle, so you could consider voluntarily surrendering it to them.

If they do take the vehicle and pursue you for the shortfall, you have a few choices:

  1. Pay them, or work out payment arrangements
  2. File a consumer proposal or
  3. File bankruptcy in Ontario

Filing a proposal or bankruptcy immediately stops a garnishment, but obviously it’s better if you can work out a plan with them first to avoid having to file.

Consumer proposal in Ontario

Tuesday, April 19th, 2011

Question: I had a consultation today and I was advised that I should be paying 100% of my debts over 5 yrs due to a past bankruptcy.  My total unsecured debts are $72,000 weekly take home income is $1475.00 only assets are 2 vehicles worth about the same or less than owing and $260,000 home with a $250,000 mtge, Does this sound right? all I have read about consumer proposals points to a lower payback.

Answer: Yes, that sounds correct.  A single person in Ontario in 2011 is allowed to earn $1,926 per month.  If you earn more than that you are required to pay half of the amount you are over (it’s called surplus income).  If your take home pay is $1,475 per week, that’s $5,900 per month, so you would be $3,974 over the limit, requiring you to pay about $1,987 per month.

Since this is your second bankruptcy you will be bankrupt for a minimum of two years, and since you have surplus income your bankruptcy is extended for an additional year, so you would be required to pay $1,987 for 36 months, or about $71,532.

Since that is the total amount you owe, there is no chance that the creditors would accept less than that in a proposal (they would not accept a proposal if they would get more in a bankruptcy).  You can read a more detailed explanation in this article on how much would my consumer proposal cost.

consumer proposal – owning a car

Friday, March 25th, 2011

Question: If I own a car that is paid for and enter into a consumer proposal, do I get to keep my car or is it regarded as an asset?

Answer: In a consumer proposal, you keep all of your assets.  That’s one of the big advantages of a consumer proposal, and one of the reasons residents of Ontario choose proposals over a bankruptcy.

If your car is financed (through a loan or a lease) you have two choices when you file a proposal or bankruptcy: keep the car, and keep making the loan payments, or surrender the car to the lender, and anything owing after they sell the car is included in the proposal or bankruptcy.

$1600 up front to file a consumer proposal

Wednesday, March 23rd, 2011

Question: is ontario debt assisstance on the up and up? they require $1600 to do a consumer proposal.

Answer: In Ontario, only a licensed trustee is able to file a consumer proposal.  A list of all trustees in Ontario that are licensed by the federal government to act as an administrator of a consumer proposal can be found on the government’s web site.  You can do a search on the website to determine if the company you are dealing with is licensed.

It is very unusual for a licensed trustee to require $1,600 up front; most trustees get paid from the monthly cost of the proposal.  Since the creditors are given 45 days to accept or reject your proposal, in most cases you only make payments for 45 days before you know whether or not the proposal was accepted.  You therefore risk a lot less dealing with a licensed trustee.

For a list of Ontario trustees licensed by the federal government, please see our trustee and consumer proposal administrator listing.

Who is eligible for a consumer proposal?

Tuesday, March 22nd, 2011

Question: My niece is on a work permit. I had joint loans with her and now I have filed for bankruptcy. Is she eligible for consumer proposal? She is employed.

Answer: Yes, if she owes more than $1,000 and is unable to pay her debts, she is eligible to file a consumer proposal.  You do not need to be a Canadian citizen to file a consumer proposal.

consumer proposal and wife just left

Wednesday, February 16th, 2011

Question: My wife and i are half way through a consumer proposal. Came home and there was a note she has left to live with another man. The kids are here with me in the family home. She says she will pay half the bills including large mortgage for now. I cant imagine that would last too long. Can she be forced to keep paying our proposal and also joint car loan? Would bankruptcy be on option If she stops paying. Both my wife and I have good salaries and are professionally employed.

Answer: On the assumption that you have filed a joint consumer proposal (meaning one proposal covering both of your debts), the legal answer to your question is this: if the proposal payments fall three months in arrears, the proposal is annulled.  Whether you each make the payment, or just you or just her make all of the payments, the result is the same.

Whether or not filing bankruptcy is an option will depend on your new circumstances.  Presumably you filed a proposal, instead of going bankrupt, due to your high combined incomes, or due to equity in your house or other assets.  Your family income is now lower, so bankruptcy may make sense.

Without know the facts of your situation it’s impossible to give a specific answer.  You should book a meeting with your consumer proposal administrator and ask them to walk you through your options.